kolab 3

Wed Jun 26 08:58:17 CEST 2013

Hello Alain,

thank you for your extensive answer, this is the info that i need.
By the way: it is not my intension to bash kolab.
I was interested in kolab for the integration of owncloud and roundcube 
and the fact that kolab is fully opensource
(no crippled community version with a paid full version).
Unfortunately i do have a lot of outlook customers now on sbs 2003 exchange.
For them i need a smooth transition from their local exchange to a 
hosted solution which i am building right now.
That is the reason for my choice for Sogo at this time, maybe in a 
couple of years i will transfer to kolab.

For the activesync part: i will follow your advice and work with 
caldav/carddav.

Met vriendelijke groet,
Kind Regards,
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,

Dirk Adamsky
Deludi BV
t: +31-(0)6-20286150
e: info at deludi.nl
w: www.deludi.nl

Op 25-6-2013 22:25, ABBAS Alain schreef:
> Hello
> We are currently evaluating Sogo to replace the groupware part of 
> kolab( we have curently a customer in test) .
> We kept Kolab2.3.4 as base for email and set Sogo on this and i see 
> that is very very good solution (if somebody
> is interested i wrote a howto to make things work and to marry Kolab 
> 2.3.4 ans Sogo 2.0.6.
>
> In your test that we really liked
> - the web interface is really simple and efficient look like Thunderbird
> - the efficaticy and performance of the dav server , really quick
> -The quality of the product ( i think it is really mature and stable 
> now  and  give to us a real groupware solution ) . Kolab suffers of 
> the storage on the groupware functionality and of a lack of clients 
> that could be used with it .
> - I can say now all run perfectly (freebusy, sharing between domain 
> (contacts and calendar),resources) . the thunderbird/Lightning 
> integration is really impressive ( whe n you share a calendar it is 
> automaticly displayed on lightning and you can even set the subcrition 
> and the rights from thunderbird, even the colors are synced.
> -the choise of clients (thunderbird/lightning with mass deployment and 
> integrated groupware functionnalities with integrator and sogo 
> connector), Outlook natively, emClient ).
> -About Mobility we sync with  Caldav/cardav that has some benefits and 
> work really well (on iphone and ipad even the invitations work). In 
> iphone it is natively supported, on android you have to buy calSync ad 
> cardSync (less 5 euro the 2 ) and bring on android word the multi 
> calendar view (like on the iphone ). We don t need funambol on this 
> way . About sogo sync , forget it is for
> me less than an alpha release . One another thing with Caldav we gain 
> more 200% of battery was about 24hour on an android with actyvesync it 
> is now 2 day 1/2 with caldav.
>
> The only problem that i see is perhaps the language t hat is objective 
> C  but it is not a really problem we are used to jump from a language 
> to another.
> and Windows mobile integration (as sogosync is buggy, but i will work 
> on it in a second time)
>
> Clearly we dont want to migrate our customers in Kolab 3.0 who has for 
> me almost the same problems than 2.3.4 on the groupware part 
>  (performance on big calendars , lack of native clients, maturity )
> customers are making pressure to  me to have a decent groupware 
> solution to avoid exchange and with the couple Kolab 2.3.4 and Sogo i 
> think i found a very good way.
>
> We didnt tested yest Outlook integration who is native (with samba4)
>
> Regards
> Alain Abbas
>
>
> Le Mardi 25 Juin 2013 21:03 CEST, dirk adamsky <info at deludi.nl> a écrit:
>
>     Hi Mat,
>
>     i have found a project called sogosync which is a repackaged
>     version of Zarafa's Z-push.
>     Sogosync has merge d with another project php-push2 (based on
>     z-push2).
>
>     https://github.com/dupondje/PHP-Push-2
>
>
>     Met vriendelijke groet,
>     Kind Regards,
>     Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>     Dirk Adamsky
>     Deludi BV
>     t: +31-(0)6-20286150
>     e: info at deludi.nl
>     w: www.deludi.nl
>
>     Op 25-6-2013 20:05, Mat Cantin schreef:
>     > On 2013-06-25 1:41, dirk adamsky wrote:
>     >> Hello Matt and Geoff,
>     >>
>     >> thank you both for your answers.
>     >> Unfortunately I do have a significant number of Outlook/Thunderbird
>     >> users.
>     >> Based on your experiences I will go for sogo groupware because
>     of the
>     >> better mailclient support.
>     >> I will keep an eye on the kolab development though.
>     >>
>     > Last time I checked SOGo didn't support activesync at all,
>     instead using
>     > the Funambol connector. My experience with Funambol is this:
>     your going
>     & gt; to have nothing but problems unless your using an actual
>     Funambol
>     > server, from devices not being supported equally with some
>     phones only
>     > being able to sync contacts but not calendars, to weird syncing
>     > behaviours that drain batteries, to needing to also separately setup
>     > IMAP for email. Compared to Activesync, it's an IT support nightmare
>     > unless you can dictate which smartphone yours users use and
>     create one
>     > set of instructions. Activesync is the killer feature you should be
>     > looking for if you're serious about having your users connect
>     with their
>     > smartphones.
>     >
>     > --
>     > Mat
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