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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hello Alain,<br>
<br>
thank you for your extensive answer, this is the info that i need.<br>
By the way: it is not my intension to bash kolab.<br>
I was interested in kolab for the integration of owncloud and
roundcube and the fact that kolab is fully opensource<br>
(no crippled community version with a paid full version). <br>
Unfortunately i do have a lot of outlook customers now on sbs 2003
exchange.<br>
For them i need a smooth transition from their local exchange to a
hosted solution which i am building right now.<br>
That is the reason for my choice for Sogo at this time, maybe in a
couple of years i will transfer to kolab.<br>
<br>
For the activesync part: i will follow your advice and work with
caldav/carddav.<br>
<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Met vriendelijke groet,
Kind Regards,
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Dirk Adamsky
Deludi BV
t: +31-(0)6-20286150
e: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info@deludi.nl">info@deludi.nl</a>
w: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.deludi.nl">www.deludi.nl</a></pre>
Op 25-6-2013 22:25, ABBAS Alain schreef:<br>
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<blockquote cite="mid:3521-51c9fd00-21-18586200@62519552"
type="cite">Hello <br>
We are currently evaluating Sogo to replace the groupware part of
kolab( we have curently a customer in test) . <br>
We kept Kolab2.3.4 as base for email and set Sogo on this and i
see that is very very good solution (if somebody<br>
is interested i wrote a howto to make things work and to marry
Kolab 2.3.4 ans Sogo 2.0.6.<br>
<br>
In your test that we really liked <br>
- the web interface is really simple and efficient look like
Thunderbird <br>
- the efficaticy and performance of the dav server , really quick <br>
-The quality of the product ( i think it is really mature and
stable now and give to us a real groupware solution ) . Kolab
suffers of the storage on the groupware functionality and of a
lack of clients that could be used with it . <br>
- I can say now all run perfectly (freebusy, sharing between
domain (contacts and calendar),resources) . the
thunderbird/Lightning integration is really impressive ( whe n you
share a calendar it is automaticly displayed on lightning and you
can even set the subcrition and the rights from thunderbird, even
the colors are synced. <br>
-the choise of clients (thunderbird/lightning with mass deployment
and integrated groupware functionnalities with integrator and sogo
connector), Outlook natively, emClient ).<br>
-About Mobility we sync with Caldav/cardav that has some benefits
and work really well (on iphone and ipad even the invitations
work). In iphone it is natively supported, on android you have to
buy calSync ad cardSync (less 5 euro the 2 ) and bring on android
word the multi calendar view (like on the iphone ). We don t need
funambol on this way . About sogo sync , forget it is for <br>
me less than an alpha release . One another thing with Caldav we
gain more 200% of battery was about 24hour on an android with
actyvesync it is now 2 day 1/2 with caldav.<br>
<br>
The only problem that i see is perhaps the language t hat is
objective C but it is not a really problem we are used to jump
from a language to another.<br>
and Windows mobile integration (as sogosync is buggy, but i will
work on it in a second time)<br>
<br>
Clearly we dont want to migrate our customers in Kolab 3.0 who has
for me almost the same problems than 2.3.4 on the groupware part
(performance on big calendars , lack of native clients, maturity
)<br>
customers are making pressure to me to have a decent groupware
solution to avoid exchange and with the couple Kolab 2.3.4 and
Sogo i think i found a very good way. <br>
<br>
We didnt tested yest Outlook integration who is native (with
samba4) <br>
<br>
Regards <br>
Alain Abbas<br>
<br>
<br>
Le Mardi 25 Juin 2013 21:03 CEST, dirk adamsky
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:info@deludi.nl"><info@deludi.nl></a> a écrit:<br>
<blockquote>Hi Mat,<br>
<br>
i have found a project called sogosync which is a repackaged
version of Zarafa's Z-push.<br>
Sogosync has merge d with another project php-push2 (based on
z-push2).<br>
<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/dupondje/PHP-Push-2">https://github.com/dupondje/PHP-Push-2</a><br>
<br>
<br>
Met vriendelijke groet,<br>
Kind Regards,<br>
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,<br>
Dirk Adamsky<br>
Deludi BV<br>
t: +31-(0)6-20286150<br>
e: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:info@deludi.nl">info@deludi.nl</a><br>
w: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.deludi.nl">www.deludi.nl</a><br>
<br>
Op 25-6-2013 20:05, Mat Cantin schreef:<br>
> On 2013-06-25 1:41, dirk adamsky wrote:<br>
>> Hello Matt and Geoff,<br>
>><br>
>> thank you both for your answers.<br>
>> Unfortunately I do have a significant number of
Outlook/Thunderbird<br>
>> users.<br>
>> Based on your experiences I will go for sogo groupware
because of the<br>
>> better mailclient support.<br>
>> I will keep an eye on the kolab development though.<br>
>><br>
> Last time I checked SOGo didn't support activesync at all,
instead using<br>
> the Funambol connector. My experience with Funambol is
this: your going<br>
& gt; to have nothing but problems unless your using an
actual Funambol<br>
> server, from devices not being supported equally with some
phones only<br>
> being able to sync contacts but not calendars, to weird
syncing<br>
> behaviours that drain batteries, to needing to also
separately setup<br>
> IMAP for email. Compared to Activesync, it's an IT support
nightmare<br>
> unless you can dictate which smartphone yours users use and
create one<br>
> set of instructions. Activesync is the killer feature you
should be<br>
> looking for if you're serious about having your users
connect with their<br>
> smartphones.<br>
><br>
> --<br>
> Mat<br>
><br>
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