personal opinion.....

[Markus Feilner]

Am Sonntag, 30. Oktober 2005 11:21 schrieb Martin Konold:
> Am Sonntag, 30. Oktober 2005 01:21 schrieb Markus Feilner:
>
> Hi Markus,
>
> > > Yes, Kolab requires enhanced versions (some patches and versions are
> > > required)
> >
> > And why does it?
>
> The enhancments fix bugs and add required functionality. After all we are
> doing much more with these components than plain old email.
>
> > Why are they necessary?
>
> Theay are required for the more advances features we are providing.
>
> > What exactly are the reasons that make patched software necessary?
> > Can you give some examples?
>
> E.g. we fixed a bug in the handling of groups in imapd. This bug was
> preventing group acls from working properly. Another example is that we
> added improved annotation handling to imapd in order to be able to put
> metadata there.
>
> > I am one of the "friends" Markus mentioned, and I have worked with
> > different Groupware Servers. Only kolab seems to need patched versions of
> > standard software to accomplish the same tasks like others do.
>
> Kolab is solving some issues other did not manage to solve for years.
>
> > I have tried e.g. OpenXchange and before the SuSe Open-Xchange - and I
> > consider its necessity for a java server disgusting and unnecessary,
> > because other groupware solutions do without.
>
> FYR: SLOX contains _many_ patches to the original software!
>
> > egroupware in fact could be a very good role model for Kolab at the
> > moment. Just try the installation and configuration routine - all from
> > the browser
>
> This is simply not correct. You can't install egroupware from the browser.
>
> > - this is state of the art! The only thing missing is the ability to
> > store groupware data in the IMAP folders.
>
> Kolab is much more than storing groupware data in imap folder. It sofar is
> the only working oss cross platform solution which really works with
> Outlook.
>
> > And sadly, I was told this week that Kolab is out of the game in the
> > Limux Project (Munich City) - Is this also because of the lack of modern
> > online updates? Does anybody know?
>
> I have no clue about the LiMux project and Kolab. But I can tell you that
> neither the Kolab Konsortium nor me have been approached about Kolab and
> the LiMux project. If they don't even talk to us then I assume they did not
> even evaluate it.
>
> Markus: Before spreading rumors can you come up with some facts about LiMux
> and Kolab?

You are right, Martin.

I have heard Peter Hofmann from the Limux Project on a lecture this week. And 
he said that they had a look at Kolab but decided to program their own 
adressbook solution, among other reasons because the internal structure of 
the Munic City administration would not fit with Kolab. 

I have just written an E-Mail and asked Peter Hofmann for further Information 
on why Kolab is not in the game. 

I will tell you about any answer i receive.

Have a nice Sunday!

Thanks Martin!

> Regards,
> -- martin

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Markus Feilner

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