Kolab client integration

[Bo Thorsen]

On Friday 09 July 2004 20:35, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
> On Friday 09 July 2004 12:12, Bo Thorsen wrote:
> > On Friday 09 July 2004 09:19, Cornelius Schumacher wrote:
> > > On Friday 09 July 2004 00:57, Bradley Alexander wrote:
> > > > Forgive me if this is in the documentation, but with KDE3.3 on
> > > > the horizon, I was just wondering if the Kolab client will be
> > > > fully integrated into the 3.3 applications?
> > >
> > > The short answer is: no.
> > >
> > > The slightly longer answer: There are certain essential things
> > > missing like the setup wizard or the conflict resolution. In
> > > addition to that I don't see any testing or bugfixing happening so
> > > I would expect the Kolab client functionality in KDE 3.3 to be
> > > broken.
> >
> > This is mail is pure FUD.
>
> Really? Where is the wizard? Where is the conflict resolution? Who has
> tested the Kolab client functionality in the HEAD branch? Where are the
> bug reports? What bug fixes have you committed to the HEAD branch?
>
> What currently is in the HEAD branch definitely is not fully integrated
> Kolab client functionality.

Cornelius, that's just not true! The only thing that's branched is the new 
format stuff. Everything else is just HEAD. All our testing and functionality 
is done in HEAD, and we don't have any secret patches anywhere.

> > KDE 3.3 will have a fully working kontact client. Anything that does
> > not currently work, is a bug that I need to know about.
>
> Who is testing the Kolab functionality and to what extent? I saw so many
> potential problems in the code when fixing problems in the groupware
> parts in the last couple of weeks that I really doubt that it actually
> works. You should also have a look at the KDE Bugzilla. There are a lot
> of problems which also affect the Kolab client.

We are doing this all the time. We have two guys in the project that's do 
testing and documentation. And we do work with both the KDE bugzilla as well 
as the kolab bug tracker. 

> > And a setup wizard is only a nice-to-have, not even close to being
> > essential (and Daniel started working on it now, btw).
>
> Nobody will be able to correctly set up the Kolab client functionality
> without a wizard. This beast is much too complex. If you don't care
> about usability you might say that it isn't essential, but that isn't
> the way KDE usually works and it certainly is something you have to
> integrate before you honestly can say that the Kolab client is _fully_
> integrated.

You really insist on insulting our work :-(

I of course agree that a wizard would be good, and I hope Daniel can make it. 
But I disagree completely that it's necessary. Documenting how to set this up 
is still a possibility.

> > But thanks for reminding me about the conflicts, I'll go kick the guy
> > I asked to implement this.
>
> Tobias is working on a conflict resolution GUI for KitchenSync. This can
> probably be reused for the Kontact conflict resolution.

Could be. I'll ask Lutz to send Tobias a mail. Thanks for the pointer.

Bo.

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