[Kolab-devel] On the road to Kolab 3.0

[Gunnar Wrobel]

"Georg C. F. Greve" <greve at kolabsys.com> schrieb:

>On Sunday 11 December 2011 22.41:15 Gunnar Wrobel wrote:
>> Can you clarify on those "shortcomings"?
>
>You know most of those yourself, in the end.
>
>OpenPKG essentially requires to maintain a complete operating system in
>a 
>single stack that is installed in parallel to the existing one. That
>has a 
>whole set of implications which have proven painful in the past.
>
>One of them is that some updates that ought to be simple have knock-on
>effects 
>in various other components, creating a flurry of changes that goes
>from 
>component to component, each time requiring a test cycle.
>
>And a lot of this is on top of the rule of thumb that an OpenPKG
>release 
>process takes around two weeks, which was initially come up with by 
>Intevation, and which Kolab Systems also ran into.
>
>As Roundcube is based on a newer version of PHP than that in the 2.3
>series, 
>we are likely to have more of those issues, not less. So something in
>the 
>range of 4-6 weeks until release seems more likely.
>
>That would then give us a release on a deprecated packaging system that
>is 
>going to be phased out with the next minor or major release, as
>discussed some 
>time ago on this list. So the effort would be pointless around 6-8
>weeks after 
>the release was out.
>
>This is quite a bit of effort for very little gain.
>
>Plus all of that without a single supported customer in the chain to
>justify 
>the cost of pulling an employee out of the development process for all
>the 
>things that are going on, slowing down the development for everyone
>else.
>
>So it's not something I can agree to.
>
>That said: You or anyone else are of course welcome to take over the
>task of 
>providing another release on the 2.3.* branch with Roundcube based on
>OpenPKG, 
>we'd definitely point you in the right directions and help you in any
>way we 
>can.

Thanks for the long reply. But as mentioned in my reply to Christoph: I really just wanted to understand what might be the blockers when trying to run roundcube on Kolab-Server-2.3.4.

Christoph already clarified that running it on SQLite should be doable.

You indicate that the PHP version is to low. Roundcube-0.7 is apparently not released yet and I did not find its exact requirements on the webpage. But 0.6 depended on PHP 5.2. It is kind of hard to imagine 0.7 relies on the yet unfinished PHP 5.4 (RC). And Kolab Server 2.3.4 has the stable 5.3.8.

Are you certain your information is accurate?

Cheers,

Gunnar

>
>Best regards,
>Georg
>
>
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