Hi Neil, > Apparently you can source Bynari in Europe (from Univention) for pretty much > the same price as Toltec. So have the moved away from the yearly renewal fee as well? Best Regards Joon Radley Radley Network Technologies CC Cell: +27 (0)83 368 8557 Fax: +27 (0)12 998 4346 E-mail: joon at radleys.co.za Web: www.toltec.co.za