[Kolab-devel] Volunteers for Kolab_Server at OpenPKG2.5 step up! :-)

[Andreas Hasenack]

On Thu, Sep 22, 2005 at 09:02:16AM +0200, Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> >>onsdag 21 september 2005 20.51 skrev thomas+kolab at lotterer.net:
> >>> Dear Kolab Community!
> >>>
> >>> I'm looking for volunteers which help me getting as many Kolab
> >>> Server excrescences as possible back into OpenPKG. You know
> >>> the genuine way installing Kolab Server is to run "obmtool",
> >>
> >>OpenPKG is not the answer. Please make kolab work without the OpenPKG
> >>pieces. Only then you will gain ground for this product.
> >
> >I could not disagree more!!
> >
> >OpenPkg is an environment that runs in parallell with the existing 
> >ports/pkg system, the solution is not to get rid of openpkg but have 
> >openpkg as one possible way to install Kolab. I agree that the installed 
> >base would increase but it makes no sense to do that and get rid of 
> >openpkg at the same time, that would only be a stupid solution.
> 
> certainly increasing the user base *makes* sense.
> 
> and offering Kolab:
> 
> 1) with OpenPKG - for end-users, which want an easy installation,
> 2) without OpenPKG dependencies - for distributions

I'm sorry, but when a distro includes it, then it is also easy to
install. OpenPKG makes it difficult (very!) for *distros*. End-users
have an easy installation process with or without OpenPKG
(although recent history showed that users with distros with gcc4 couldn't
use kolab2 with openpkg because some packages didn't build)

It's up to the project to decide what's going to be its target user
base. Mandriva included it because we felt it was something our users
would like to have. But it certainly wasn't easy for us to do it
(took months). Now, depending on what our users feedback is, we may 
or may not keep it in the distro. We have to weight that feedback
against the cost of heavily patching kolab2. If OpenPKG is dropped,
that would make it easier for *us* to keep kolab2 in the distro.