<html dir="ltr"><head></head><body style="text-align:left; direction:ltr;"><div>Thank you Mads and apheleia-it, for taking the kolab challenge !</div><div><br></div><div>-----Original Message-----</div><div><b>From</b>: Mads Petersen <<a href="mailto:Mads%20Petersen%20%3cpetersen@apheleia-it.ch%3e">petersen@apheleia-it.ch</a>></div><div><b>Reply-To</b>: <a href="mailto:petersen@apheleia-it.ch">petersen@apheleia-it.ch</a></div><div><b>To</b>: Lennart <<a href="mailto:Lennart%20%3clennart@ackermans.ch%3e">lennart@ackermans.ch</a>></div><div><b>Cc</b>: <a href="mailto:users@lists.kolab.org">users@lists.kolab.org</a></div><div><b>Subject</b>: Re: New mailing list and online documentation</div><div><b>Date</b>: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 12:54:02 +0100</div><div><br></div><pre>Hello Lennart, Hello all,</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Thank you for your comments and your feedback. It is inspiring to see </pre><pre>movement on the community, and that made me want to give a short </pre><pre>overview of the situation - and perhaps a few words about the future as </pre><pre>we see it.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>After the 'kolaps' (see what I did there..) of Kolab Systems, Apheleia </pre><pre>IT picked up the pieces, and are now working on developing Kolab forward </pre><pre>into the new decade. We are working on implementing the new generation </pre><pre>which we name 'Kolab 4', of which you will already be able to see the </pre><pre>results in action. This new Kolab generation will eventually be the </pre><pre>foundation of future Kolab on all the different levels that we do.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>A short overview of the Apheleia activities:</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Kolab; is where the fun happens. This is the latest and greatest. This </pre><pre>is where new developments are done and R&D sometimes breaks everything - </pre><pre>until it is corrected and everyone moves forward. All new features are </pre><pre>developed here first, and is then pushed through QA towards the other </pre><pre>levels. Any community provided contributions will happen here. All </pre><pre>source is available on git.kolab.org.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Kolab Now; is the SaaS installation of Kolab, run and maintained by </pre><pre>Apheleia staff on servers in Bern, Switzerland. The targets are, among </pre><pre>others, to increase the awareness of Kolab among the internet </pre><pre>population, to tweak and proof the usecases of the Kolab reference </pre><pre>architecture, and to serve a group of users with special demands </pre><pre>matching the Kolab strong points.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Kolab Now is running the new Kolab 4.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>CyComm; is the quality assured version of Kolab that is installed and </pre><pre>supported by the Apheleia staff. It is where the guarantees of updates </pre><pre>with no surprise (good or bad) are valid, and it is where support </pre><pre>subscriptions and SLAs are included. It was named to avoid the large </pre><pre>confusion of 'Kolab', 'Kolab Now', 'Kolab Enterprise', 'Kolab Systems', </pre><pre>'Kolab Community', 'MyKolab', 'Kolab You Name It', etc, etc. Although it </pre><pre>is a pr subscription offering, it is all Free and Open Source software. </pre><pre>All code is available on git.kolab.org, and that is how it should be.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>git.kolab.org; is running a Phabricator front end, which unfortunately </pre><pre>is end of life (Phabriator is..). We have been very busy with moving </pre><pre>Kolab forward, and have had less time to think about the git front end </pre><pre>tooling. One of our goals for this year is, to engage more with the </pre><pre>community, and perhaps find a new and useful replacement for Phabricator </pre><pre>(which, as mentioned, is end of life).</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Facilitating the community; You will probably not see Apheleia staff </pre><pre>take support questions on the mailing list anytime soon, but we do want </pre><pre>to facilitate the community better than we have done lately. We do read </pre><pre>the discussions and learn what we can from those. Hence we are very </pre><pre>happy for this mail, and for any of your ideas and input as to how we </pre><pre>could improve the life of you as a community member. We will not make </pre><pre>any promises (we are a small team) but symbiosis is the wave of the </pre><pre>future.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I hope that this short overview contains useful information, and that we </pre><pre>can find a way to collect rather than separate.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Sincerely</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Mads Petersen</pre><pre>Creator of chaos</pre><pre>Apheleia IT AG</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>On 08.03.2022 15:07, Lennart wrote:</pre><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex"><pre>Dear Kolab community,</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Since a while ago the online docs have not been updated (T6055 [1])</pre><pre>and the mailing list web site has been down (T6220 [2]). It does not</pre><pre>look like Apheleia IT (the company that now runs Kolab) is interested</pre><pre>in fixing this. Hence, it might be time to take matters in our own</pre><pre>hands.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I have uploaded the latest git version of the documentation to</pre><pre>kolab.dlnet.org/docs [3].</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>I started a new users mailing list that can be found here:</pre><pre>kolab.dlnet.org/listserver [4].</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Of course to revive the community much more would need to be done. I</pre><pre>don't have much time to contribute substantially, but I hope that</pre><pre>providing these vital services can be a starting point. Please let me</pre><pre>know what you think.</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Best wishes,</pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Lennart</pre><pre><br></pre><pre><br></pre><pre>Links:</pre><pre>------</pre><pre>[1] </pre><a href="https://git.kolab.org/T6055"><pre>https://git.kolab.org/T6055</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>[2] </pre><a href="https://git.kolab.org/T6220"><pre>https://git.kolab.org/T6220</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>[3] </pre><a href="http://kolab.dlnet.org/docs/"><pre>http://kolab.dlnet.org/docs/</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>[4] </pre><a href="https://kolab.dlnet.org/listserver/"><pre>https://kolab.dlnet.org/listserver/</pre></a><pre><br></pre><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>users mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:users@lists.kolab.org"><pre>users@lists.kolab.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://lists.kolab.org/mailman/listinfo/users"><pre>https://lists.kolab.org/mailman/listinfo/users</pre></a><pre><br></pre></blockquote><pre>_______________________________________________</pre><pre>users mailing list</pre><a href="mailto:users@lists.kolab.org"><pre>users@lists.kolab.org</pre></a><pre><br></pre><a href="https://lists.kolab.org/mailman/listinfo/users"><pre>https://lists.kolab.org/mailman/listinfo/users</pre></a><pre><br></pre></body></html>