Lost Emails in Kolab

Gunnar Wrobel wrobel at pardus.de
Sat Feb 27 21:55:51 CET 2010


Quoting Jochen May <admin at jmay.org>:

> Am Donnerstag, 25. Februar 2010 22:34:16 schrieb Alain Spineux:
>> On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Jochen May <admin at jmay.org> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>> >
>> > i got some problems with my mailsystem yesterday. Fetchmail grep around 3
>> > pm a couple of mails from my provider and hand it over to postfix. So
>> > far so good. Unfortunaly, i never get this mails. After browsing thrue
>> > the log-files i found this:
>> >
>> > Feb 24 14:41:16 kolab kolabd[2930]: Y Error: Unable to connect to local
>> > Cyrus admin interface
>> >
>> > So i guess, that this was the problem. But i don't get the mails.
>> >
>> > I got in my mind, that postfix keep the messages until they can forward
>> > it to cyrus. So normaly, the messages shout be appear after the restart
>> > of the server...
>> > But when i take a look to the postfix.log, it shows me, that the messages
>> > are bounced back.
>>
>> You could use this to find your emails history:
>>
>> http://wiki.kolab.org/index.php/What_is_happening_to_my_emails_where_are_th
>> eir._Search_your_postfix_log_to_find_them
>
> Nice howto. It help me also with a second problem, what occured when  
> i was investiaged the lost mails.
>
> I own a domain with the name sv-og-wertheim.de. This mails are also  
> collected by fetchmail and forwared to the local user. But the users  
> never get the mails
>
> The following show you the log after the message come back from amavisd:
>
> Feb 26 16:32:12 kolab <info> postfix/smtpd[9969]: 2FF0466A5B:
> client=localhost.localdomain[127.0.0.1]
> Feb 26 16:32:12 kolab <info> postfix/cleanup[9963]: 2FF0466A5B: message-
> id=<20100226151828.175850 at gmx.net>
> Feb 26 16:32:12 kolab <info> postfix/qmgr[9468]: 2FF0466A5B:
> from=<obiwan93 at gmx.de>, size=2656, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
> Feb 26 16:32:12 kolab <info> postfix/smtp[9966]: 91A0666A5E:
> to=<kolab at localhost>, relay=127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1]:10024, delay=0.68,
> delays=0.12/0.07/0/0.49, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as
> 2FF0466A5B)
> Feb 26 16:32:12 kolab <info> postfix/smtp[9970]: 2FF0466A5B:
> to=<kolab at localhost>, relay=none, delay=0.07, delays=0.04/0.03/0.01/0,
> dsn=5.4.6, status=bounced (mail for localhost loops back to myself)

The recipient address "kolab at localhost" looks strange. And the fatal  
error you hit is "mail for localhost loops back to myself". Google  
gives you quite a few hits for that. But I admit I'm not certain which  
of the discussions provide the correct hint for your specific  
situation. Maybe you know why the recipient is "kolab at localhost"?

Cheers,

Gunnar

> Feb 26 16:32:12 kolab <info> postfix/bounce[9971]: 2FF0466A5B: sender non-
> delivery notification: 4E5D466A6F
> Feb 26 16:32:12 kolab <info> postfix/qmgr[9468]: 2FF0466A5B: removed
>
> All other mails are forwared without any problems. Attached are the  
> relevant part of the postfix.log
>
>> > First of all, is this right what i write there? And if yes, can somebody
>> > explain me why it work in this?
>>
>> A SMTP must  warn the sender (the mail bounce) if it cannot deliver it
>> in a mailbox.
>> If the problem is for a short period then it must retry later.
>
> I thought it will be the same, like when clamav is not running. So  
> the message is qued until clamav is back. And SMTP will warn the  
> sender after a while and not directly.
>
>
> Greetings
> Jochen May
>



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