annoying Kolab things

[Marco]

Am Dienstag, 20. März 2007 21:15 schrieb André Karlsson:
> It is alway nice to hear constructive feedback, even if i dont agree with
> you at all (mabye the documentation needs some work).
>
> The developers of Kolab is accually very dedicated to answer all questions
> in the list and they give both kolab and nonkolab related answer, they have
> all my blessings
>
> Keep up the good work
>
> Best regards André
>
> On Tuesday 20 March 2007 16:52, Marco wrote:
> > Well.... It's the umpteen time I try to deal with Groupware on Linux. The
> > Experience goes from "Ok, give it a try..." to "Oh my god....".
> > It's the 3th time I give Kolab it's try and it's the 3th time I'm getting
> > annoyed and going to give up!
>
> Since i've been working professional with windows NT/2000/2003 for over 10
> years it would be fair to say that installing exchange (as an example) is a
> walk in the park, but that is a truth with a great deal of modification.
>
> When you stopped pressing "OK and you have your setup then what. This
> scares me the most that people ( probably not you Marco :) ) is satisfied
> with a standard setup but then dont have a clue what happens when something
> goes wrong and something allways will go wrong and with exchange things
> usually goes really wrong when it does. This is not the time you want be in
> a "Oh my God" stituiation. I prefer it before the setup is up and running.
>
> But yes kolab requires some more tweaks, and if you feel unpleasant using
> kolab or any other software for that matter you simply shouldn't cause it
> may lead to major disaster in the business world anyway :D

Just to make sure I got you right......
You say it is bether not to say that I feel unpleasant about a software.... 
because i could step on somebodys feet ??

>
> Have you tried openXchange? (stabel but a ¤¤"¤£$@ to setup)
>
> Since i get the feeling you use windows cause of oulook
>
> > But before I do this I want to let you know what I think:
> >
> >
> > - Mailinglist
> > 	As I think, today Mailinglists are obsolete because of these reasons:
> > 	1. 	Today the biggest part of all email traffic is spam. Therefor many
> > ISP's have installed own Spamfilters. Because of this you can't tell if a
> > mail sent to a mailing list will arrive to every member.
>
> ISP having Spam filters that filters this mailbox prob have done something
> really wrong in their setup
>
> > 	2.	Mailinglists are bad references. I know it is possible to brows the
> > 		Mailinglist archive on your page, but hey..... Month by month by hand
> > ?!!! This means Users have to ask the same question again and again
> > 'cause nobody wants to search in the archives.
>
> Well I dont know for the rest but microsoft "wiki" and technet is not much
> better even with their huge resources (money/emplyees)
>
> > 	3.	Mail programs are adding characters to the beginning of every line
> > 		when you reply to an email. This makes it impossible to read a whole
> > 		conversation thread	if it there where many participators.
>
> The reason for the bracks is accually to make it easier to view new
> comments in messages with multiple questions at issue. This can be
> configured in most MUA even outlook
>
> > 	In my opinion a web forum would be a much bether solution.
> >
> > - Documentation
> > 	I think it would be much easier to setup and work with Kolab if there
> > would be one document which explains everything. From the Basic setup of
> > the Server and the Clients 'til the "special features" like group folders
> > and stuff....
>
> Couldn't agree more :D, and if the Kolab team needs a hand here im all
> yours.
>
> > 	At this point let me highlight that (at least in my experience) there is
> > a mistake in the Documentation. The Outlook 2003 Document says I should
> > create a new POP3 account. As I see, this is wrong. Since if I do so I
> > can't select this account in the Toltec connector....
> >
> > 	Another point is the order. The Outlook 2003 Document First explains the
> > 	creation of the new email account and then things like Free/Busy,
> > Delegation working in groups and so on.... The Configuration of the
> > Toltec connector is explained at the end of the section....
> >
> > 	I would really like to participate and write a better Documentation but
> > to do this, I need to look through the whole stuff. And at the moment I'm
> > giving up the 3th time to configuring Kolab.
> >
> > I'm fearing the day on which I have to Migrate my server hardware and
> > therefor caring the data from the old server to the new one......
> > Nightmare
>
> There i dont agree at all since moving all data is walk in the park
> (almost :D) with full backup/restore
>
> > 			Thanks for your hearing
> >
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