migrating to and from Samsung Contact and Exchange ?

Igor Shmukler shmukler at mail.ru
Wed Sep 29 03:15:17 CEST 2004


Martin,

First, I would like to say that perhaps I did not understand what you were suggesting. Hence the confusion.

Do you think your strategy is something a medium or large orgazination could do?

Let's say that we have 3,000 users with only 20 MB Folder size limit the result would be 60GB.
It's enough to fit on singe HD.

Now, needless to say that for security reasons we would not want just anyone login into any machine.
Nor could an organization coordinate such an effort to be done overnight because some staff might just be away.
However, let's assume that this was possible.

Let's say we have a Fast Ethernet (100Mb/s). Windows+OL could say push through 50 KB/s.
We would have to stop working for a month.
Perhaps some corporations have high-speed full-duplex networks connected to every workstation ...
As for every company I worked for, it seems like a pipedream migration strategy.

Igor.

-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Konold <martin.konold at erfrakon.de>
To: "Jeremy C. Reed" <reed at reedmedia.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:51:27 +0200
Subject: Re: migrating to and from Samsung Contact and Exchange?

> 
> Am Dienstag, 28. September 2004 23:11 schrieb Jeremy C. Reed:
> 
> > > Basically you can use extra Tools, the Outlook Connector or IMAP to
> > > migrate the stuff.
> >
> > This sounds useful. Where can I find the documentation for these "extra
> > Tools"?
> >
> > > The strategy to be employed pretty much depends on the actual
> > > installation.
> 
> Version 1.0.0
> The latest version of this file can be downloaded from
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/
> Please choose there package/project/file:
> general Files for KDE/Pim
> MigrationHowTo_OL2KDE
> MigrationHowTo_OL2Kolab.txt.zip
> 
> 
> This HowTo describes the process of migrating data 
> ( emails, contacts and calendar data ) 
> from Outlook 98/200X (TM) to a Kolab server.
> We will call Outlook as OL in this document.
> You will need an IMAP server for migrating emails.
> The Kolab server is an IMAP server.
> We will describe how the PIM data  ( contact and calendar data )
> of OL can be migrated using the Toltec (TM) connector.
> Migration of the OL contact and calendar data to KDE 
> (and using the Kolab server from KDE with the KDE Groupware client Kontact) 
> can be done without using the Toltec Outlook connector. 
> It can be done by using migration tools.
> You can found the HowTo using the migration tools on
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/
> Please choose there package/project/file:
> general Files for KDE/Pim
> MigrationHowTo_OL2KDE
> MigrationHowTo_OL2KDE.txt.zip
> 
> Content:
> 
> 1) How to start
> 2) How to import pst files in Outlook
> 3) Choose the migration strategie
> 4) How to copy the contact data in OL to the Kolab server.
> 5) How to copy the calendar data in OL to the Kolab server.
> 6) How to copy the email in OL to the Kolab server.
> 
> ****************************************
> 1) How to start
> ****************************************
> 
> For the migration we need the actual OL data, which Outlook stores in *.pst 
> files.
> Then we need an installed version of OL to access these  *.pst files.
> 
> We assume, that we have an OL version installed that manages emails, contacts 
> and calendar data.
> 
> If you have no OL installed please install the Outlook version, you need to a 
> import your *.pst files.
> If you have an OL installed with no email/contact/calendar data available, and 
> you have some  *.pst files please continue with: 2) How to import pst files 
> in Outlook.
> If you have a running Outlook200X already with contact/calendar data 
> available, 
> please continue with: 3) Choose the migration strategie.
> 
> ****************************************
> 2) How to import pst files in Outlook
> ****************************************
> 
> To open a local *.pst file in Outlook2003, choose menu:
> File - Open - Outlook Data File ...
> Now the data included in this file is shown 
> as folders of a newly added root folder in the Outlook folder view.
> This root folder is probably not accessable from
> the migration tools via OLE. 
> To access data stored in one of the subfolders,
> copy this subfolder to a root folder, 
> which can be accessed from the migration tools via OLE.
> (To know, which folder can be accessed, just perform 5.) or 6.) until
> you get the Oulook import dialog!)
> 
> To copy it, right click on that subfolder and choose
> Copy "<subfoldername>"...
> in the popup menu.
> 
> ****************************************
> 3) Choose the migration strategie
> ****************************************
> 
> We assume, that we have an OL version installed that manages emails, contact 
> and calendar data.
> 
> The goal is it to get the emails, contacts and calendar data of OL on a Kolab 
> server.
> 
> After having the data on the Kolab server, we have two choices:
> 
> (A) Accessing the server from KDE with the KDE-Kolab Client Kontact. 
> (B) Accessing the server from Windows XP Outlook 2003 with Toltec Connector.
> 
> Such that do have two strategies for the migration:
> 
>  (i) 
>  Use the Toltec Connector for migrating the contact 
>  and calendar data. 
>  Moving the email in OL to the Kolab server.
> 
>  This can be used for (A) and (B).
>  Doing this for (A)  might involve installing 
>  the Toltec Connector on the source platform
>  syncing everything freshly on the Kolab Server and then
>  just continue using the KDE client on the new data.
> 
>  (ii) 
>  Use the migration tools for migrating the contact 
>  and calendar data.
>  Moving the email in OL to the Kolab server.
> 
>  Doing this for (A), there is no need to install the
>  Toltec Connector on the source platform.
> 
> 
> 
>    ***  Choosing  (A) and (ii)
> 
> If you choose (A) and (ii), please read 
> 6) How to copy the email in OL to the Kolab server.
> You can found the HowTo using the migration tools on
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kdepimpi/
> Please choose there package/project/file:
> general Files for KDE/Pim
> MigrationHowTo_OL2KDE
> MigrationHowTo_OL2KDE.txt.zip
> 
>     *** Choosing (B) and (i) or 
>    (A) and (i)
> 
> If you choose (B) and (i) or if you choose (A) and (i),
> please upgrade to QL XP and install the 
> Toltec Connector. After that, please read
> 4) How to copy the contact data in OL to the Kolab server.
> 5) How to copy the calendar data in OL to the Kolab server.
> 6) How to copy the email in OL to the Kolab server.
> 
> 
> ************************************************************
> 4) How to copy the contact data in OL to the Kolab server.
> ************************************************************
> 
> We assume that you have the Toltec Connector installed and that 
> you have configured it to access the Kolab server.
> 
> Select the contacts you want to copy.
> If you want to select all contacts of a folder,
> select the topleft entry, scroll to the right, 
> hold the SHIFT key down and click on the rightbottom entry.
> Now all contact of the folder should be selected.
> Now choose  
> Menu: Edit - Copy to folder.
> Choose your destination folder in the Toltec Connector folder and click OK.
> 
> After that, sync your Toltec Connector folder with the server.
> 
> 
> ************************************************************
> 5) How to copy the calendar data in OL to the Kolab server.
> ************************************************************
> 
> We assume that you have the Toltec Connector installed and that 
> you have configured it to access the Kolab server.
> Select the calendar folder you want to copy to the server.
> Right click on it - a popup menu pops up.
> Choose "Advanced find" in this menu.
> An  "Advanced find" dialog pops up. Fill out nothing in this dialog, 
> click on the button "Find now".
> As the search result, you will get all entries of that folder.
> Select now the calendar data, you want to copy.
> If you want to select all calendar data of this folder,
> select the topmost entry, scroll to the bottom, 
> hold the SHIFT key down and click on the bottom entry.
> Now all contact of the folder should be selected.
> Now choose in the "Advanced find" dialog the
> Menu: Edit - Copy to folder.
> Choose your destination folder in the Toltec Connector folder and click OK.
> 
> After that, sync your Toltec Connector folder with the server.
> 
> 
> ************************************************************
> 6) How to copy the email in OL to the Kolab server.
> ************************************************************
> 
> Note:
> There is no need to have the Toltec Connector installed to move/copy 
> mails with Outlook to an IMAP server.
> 
> We assume that there is already the IMAP account on the Kolab server
> configured in OL.
> You will see there a folder Inbox. (And maybe other folders).
> These folder may contain the subfolders "Calendar", "Tasks", "Journal" and 
> Notes.
> These folders are used by the Kolab Groupware client,
> DO NOT COPY ordinary emails to this folders!
> 
> If you do not want to copy your emails in the "Inbox", 
> please create another folder on the server.
> 
> Now select your folder with the emails, you want to copy.
> 
> Select there the emails, you want to copy.
> If you want to select all emails of this folder,
> select the topmost entry, scroll to the bottom, 
> hold the SHIFT key down and click on the bottom entry.
> Now all emails of the folder should be selected.
> Now choose the
> Menu: Edit - Copy to folder.
> Choose your destination folder in the IMAP Kolab server account and click on 
> OK.
> After that, sync your IMAP Kolab server account with the server.
> 
> 
> Yours,
> -- martin
> 
> Dipl.-Phys. Martin Konold
> 
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