Why and when storing local time? (Re: Basic rationale of the KEP #2 design)
Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab Systems)
vanmeeuwen at kolabsys.com
Wed Mar 30 19:06:50 CEST 2011
Bernhard Reiter wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 24. März 2011 12:29:11 schrieb Jeroen van Meeuwen (Kolab
>
> Systems):
> > > Your version of using the "baseline" UTC offset only works,
> > > if this part of the tz-data does not change. I was proposing a solution
> > > for a non-daylight saving rule change in the tz-data.
>
> I have to correct myself here, I had answered too quickly.
>
> Your version would also not solve the problem with changes to the DST rules
> within the tz-data. This is also what Georg tried to explain.
>
> Let me try it again:
>
> As a user I want 15:00 in May 2015 in Berlin.
> I have available the tz-data from Dec 2010 for Berlin,
> which tells me that for May 2015 it is UTC+2
> and for Jan 2015 it is UTC+1.
>
> Three possibilities:
>
> Saving 1) UTC + TZ-ID: "13:00 + Europe/Berlin"
> 2) Localtime + TZ-ID: "15:00 + Europe/Berlin"
> 3) Jeroen's baseline + TZ-ID: "14:00 + Europe/Berlin"
>
> In Dez 2012 I get an update of my tz-data for Berlin
> and now it tells me that for May 2015 it is UTC+4
> and still Jan 2015 stays at UTC+1.
>
> With variant 2) I can easily get the right UTC which is 11:00
> and then display the appointment in other timezones as I wish,
> so this works.
>
> With variant 1) and 3) it is not enough to now the new tz-data
> as this would lead the appointment to be in displayed at 17:00
> time and 13:00 UTC where it shouldn't be.
>
You can't use baseline offsets one way and then completely ignore the fact you
are supposed to use baseline offsets the other way around, too.
Kind regards,
Jeroen van Meeuwen
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