OpenPKG pros and cons (was: [Kolab-devel] Volunteers for Kolab_Server at OpenPKG2.5 step up!)

[Bernhard Reiter]

Am Mittwoch, 21. September 2005 21:11 schrieb Oden Eriksson:
> onsdag 21 september 2005 20.51 skrev thomas+kolab at lotterer.net:

> > I'm looking for volunteers which help me getting as many Kolab
> > Server excrescences as possible back into OpenPKG. You know
> > the genuine way installing Kolab Server is to run "obmtool",
>
> OpenPKG is not the answer. 

Dear Oden,
while I have not problem discussing pros and cons of www.openpkg.org,
I think you highjacking a threat here, as Thomas wrote that he is aware of 
other opinions but this is not the subject of his post.
So yes, for the original goals, volunteers for Kolab Server OpenPKG 
integration are indeed the answer.

> Please make kolab work without the OpenPKG  pieces. 
> Only then you will gain ground for this product. 

This is an ongoing debate and so far OpenPKG has worked out quite nicely
for the Kolab project and its server implementation.
I would welcome more direkt GNU/Linux integration, but this is secondary
to the goal as was explained quite often. 
The huge issue is the quality ensuring effort.
Most distributions do not quality assure intensively a solution build out
of many different components they are shipping. This is no surprise,
the possible combinations are endless.

> Currently we (Mandriva) have to put in zillions of patches and hacks to
> even get somewhere with this product.

I expect that you are doing the integration, glueing an quality control again
and specific to Mandriva. This is something the Kolab Project currently does 
not have the resources for to do for several distributions.
But note: without the Kolab project not using Openpkg, 
you probably would not have a product 
you integrate into Mandriva. :-)

It is great to see Mandriva integrating Kolab2!

Regards,
Bernhard
bERNHARD